Person #1:
Having DEI for physics professors, and not for NFL running back positions, makes absolutely no sense. And seeing a lot of white faces on the US Olympic or an NFL Team tells me that we probably aren’t sending our best. Our Olympic team should 'look' like the NBA or the top heavyweight ranks of boxing. We should be seeing no white faces. And we should all be 'OK' with that."
Person #2:
"Here’s an interesting take (maybe). I tuned in to a news channel the other day. On stage were three people. Two were black. One was white — but an airhead. What does that say about our white society?
If our society is striving for fair representation, given the percentage of our society that is black, at most, there should be one black person and two whites. Maybe it would be nice to have a Chinaman on camera, too, for our friends in the Far East who are spying on us. Inclusion, you see.
Of[sic] maybe the black person could be wearing a hoodie and have an outstanding warrant for assault and rape of his ho.
I know we can do better; we just aren’t trying. Gotta connect the dots, man." *
*The writer of the above either doesn't know, or doesn't care, that the candidate HE supports has been credibly accused of sexual assault by 20+ women; has bragged about grabbing women by their genitals because "he's a star;" has been found liable for sexual assault/rape by E. Jean Carroll; and is a serial adulterer who cheated on all three wives and who even cheated on his mistress, Karen McDougal, with porn star, Stormy Daniels. The writer above believes he's "doing better" by voting for that hot mess of an immoral lout.
To counter these depressing, all too common stereo-typical descriptions of POC and African-Americans from Trump supporters, I post the following:
LIST OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN PHYSICISTS
LIST OF EDUCATORS, SCIENTISTS, AND SCHOLARS FROM AFRICAN COUNTRIES
And this last comment from a Trump supporter:
"It’s important to keep our eye on the ball. If you support the Republic and wish to preserve it, then you support the Republican candidate, warts and all. If you’re a filthy communist, you support the other guy."
We have Trump, the disuniter, to blame for bamboozling his supporters into thinking that anyone who does not vote for him is a "filthy communist." (David French? Mike Pence? Really?)
We must vote Trump into oblivion and leave this irrational, unbalanced human being on the dung heap of history. Give him the worst political defeat so that he will retire forever to Mar-a-Lago, and let our nation heal from the political and moral damage he has inflicted on us all -- even his bamboozled cultists!
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ps - In 2020, 3.1% of undergraduate physics degrees were awarded to Black students, down from 4.8% in 1999. In 2016, 4% of women who earned bachelor's degrees in physics were African American, but the number has not increased much since then.
Black scientists make up less than one percent of physics PhDs in the U.S. And since 1999, most physics departments in the country have failed to graduate more than one or two Black undergraduates. Furthermore, the share of Black students in physics is declining: If the number receiving a bachelor’s degree in physics had kept pace with the rising popularity of the major, there would be 350 Black physicists graduating every year. Instead, in 2020, that number was 262.
Shaw... what would you expect "home on the range" where never is heard a discouraging word?
Many conservatives, including those that contribute at the site you referenced don't believe the Trump Admin practiced a systemic child separation policy at the border that housed children in cages. They do not believe Trump said he's be a dictator on day one, said he'd like to terminate the Constitution and said "you'll never have to vote again".
And when they are confronted with the actual quotes, or video evidence, they explain it away saying that's not what he meant.
Lies and such become untruths or mistakes, unless they come from a progressive. They just cannot accept Trump's actual words as they are spoken. Because like him, they are too horrible.
Only when (and if) his cultist feel his actions personally and directly impacting them in very negative ways will they consider leaving theirBig Daddy Fuhrer .
You see, folks that focus almost exclusively on how things affect only them and to hell with everyone else will ALWAYS support the guy or gal that thinks just like them.
What scares these short sighted people with their myopic views is they fear if others have more they will have less. Which of course is a fallacy.
The planet produces enough food to feed nearly 14 billion people per day. Yet the world population is approx. 8 billion people.
So, what happened to the other 6 billion meals? Well, they were consumed by gluttony, or, they went into the trash and fed no one.
Yet, millions go hungry each and every day.
WHY? And why is Trump not out there preaching these truths while he is selling his Official Trump, US Constitution Holy Bible. Rather than hawking his greed and total support of billionaires and large corporations who regularly screw their customers?
Does he not know the teachings of Jesus? Has he forgotten that the poor and meek shall inherit the Kingdom of Heaven?
The Orange Menance is a fake, a fraud, and a disgrace. Along with being an insurectionist, a rapist, and a felon. America deserves better. Far far better.
Harris/Walz 2024 -Truly Making America Better Through Inclusiveness, Diversity, Compassion, and Love
The days of lying and hate will soon come to an end. When Trump/Vance are gone, Project 2025 is collecting dust, and the GOP feels the sting of their ignorance and hate.
-FJ: "ps - In 2020, 3.1% of undergraduate physics degrees were awarded to Black students, down from 4.8% in 1999. In 2016, 4% of women who earned bachelor's degrees in physics were African American, but the number has not increased much since then.
Black scientists make up less than one percent of physics PhDs in the U.S. And since 1999, most physics departments in the country have failed to graduate more than one or two Black undergraduates. Furthermore, the share of Black students in physics is declining: If the number receiving a bachelor’s degree in physics had kept pace with the rising popularity of the major, there would be 350 Black physicists graduating every year. Instead, in 2020, that number was 262."
Unless you can bring to these stats the UNDERLYING REASONS for what you've written, this is meaningless, unless you have a hidden agenda for posting it.
-FJ: "Black students in physics is declining: If the number receiving a bachelor’s degree in physics had kept pace with the rising popularity of the major, there would be 350 Black physicists graduating every year. Instead, in 2020, that number was 262."
That would be after 4 years of the Trump administration, wouldn't it? I wonder why the number of Black physicists declined in those years. Hmmmm.
If anyone wants to hear a discussion of why Black graduates in Physics is declining, listen to this HERE.
This thread is not about that subject, but anyone can read about it at the link.
Here's another link for those who are interested.
But this thread is NOT about declining PhD enrollments in HBCU. This post shows how some (not all) white Americans talk about minorities when they think no one else can see their true bigoted feelings:
"... maybe the black person could be wearing a hoodie and have an outstanding warrant for assault and rape of his ho. "
Did that person even think that a description of a young, disturbed white male carrying an AR-15 would represent ALL young white males? Of course not! That remark would be a rotten stereotype of what bigoted people think of all white males.
But the writer of the bolded text had no problem of labeling young black men as hoodie wearing rapists.
And that is part of our national problem with race. And it stinks.
Do my statistic scare you that much that you must hide them? Really?
How many black physicists on your list have won Nobel Prizes?
% Jewish
100%
CA Senators 1996
17%
Nobel Physiology and Medicine
85%
College age Jews in college
16%
Time Most Important 25
76%
Most influential intellectuals
(Alan Dershowitz)
15%
MacArthur "Genius" Awards 1981-97
60%
Yale Grad students
15%
Time 20 20th Century Inventors
60%
Top Hollywood positions
(60 min)
15%
USA Today College Academic Team
40%
Lawyers at best NY and DC law firms
14%
Clinton Cabinet 1997
20-30%
Westinghouse Science Prize
11%
Nobel Physics Prize
30%
Faculty at elite colleges
10%
Pulitzer 1997
30%
Supreme Court Law Clerks
10%
US Senate
27%
Ivy League Survey
10%
US college faculty
26%
US Law Professors
(Volokh UCLA)
7.7%
Corporate Boards
25%
ACM Turing Award
7%
Forbes HiTech 100 1997
23%
Wealthiest Americans
3.0%
US Voters 1996
23%
Top 100 wealthy Canadians
2.0%
US Population
17%
Boston Symphony Strings
0.25%
World Population
The underlying cause is obvious. Culture. Most Blacks imitate the Scotch-Irish Culture. "Cracker" Culture. The very culture "progressives" elevate at every possible opportunity through the culture industry.
You've probably heard of Murray & Hernstein's "The Bell Curve". Did you ever read Murray's essay on Belmont & Fishtown?
It's better for your IQ to come from Belmont.
Most Ivy League whites come from Belmont. They have no idea what its' like to grow up in Fishtown.
To represent the classes at the two ends of the continuum, I give you two fictional neighborhoods that I hereby label Belmont (after an archetypal upper-middle-class suburb near Boston) and Fishtown (after a neighborhood in Philadelphia that has been white working class since the Revolution). To be assigned to Belmont, the people in my databases must have at least a bachelor’s degree and work as a manager, physician, attorney, engineer, architect, scientist, college professor, or in content-production jobs in the media. To be assigned to Fishtown, they must have no academic degree higher than a high school diploma. If they work, their job must be in a blue-collar, service, or low-level white-collar occupation.
Meanwhile in Kensington, just next to Fishtown yesterday...
Here's hoping that we are set up to have 16 years of democratic presidents.
Rev, Not to doubt you but where did trump say he was going to be a dictator and where did he institute systemic child separation policy.
DEI is a policy where you don't take the best qualified but the one who checks the box. When biden said he was going to select a black for VP or for SCOTUS did he check a box or select the best candidate.
The majority of athletes are black because they are the best but that is not racist just fact. The majority of PhD's are white because the are the best not racist just fact.
I hope when you or I go into surgery or fly on a plane the person in charge was the best and not a DEI selection.
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I'm not going to publish any more of your Black culture links. This thread is NOT a discussion on that subject. I posted three texts on what WHITE MEN/WOMEN have to say about Black people's lives.
If this were going to be a post on Black people's culture, I would have found a Black scholar who intimately knows what that is about. Not some white guy who may or may not have an agenda, which includes hijacking other people's blog posts.
Trump’s vow to only be a dictator on ‘day one’ follows growing worry over his authoritarian rhetoric
NPR: "The Secret History Of The U.S. Government's Family-Separation Policy" is the cover story of the new issue of The Atlantic magazine. This investigative article was written by my guest, Caitlin Dickerson. The separation policy, called zero tolerance, was created during the Trump administration, mandating that parents across the southern border illegally with children be separated from their children until legal proceedings concluded and parents were either granted asylum or deported, which could take a very long time. During the Trump administration, over 5,000 children were separated from their parents with no records that would enable parents and children to be reunited. For a year and a half, Trump administration officials denied that family separation even existed. Then they said separation wasn't the goal. It was just an unfortunate result of prosecuting parents who crossed the border illegally."
For your information, skud, Ketanji Jackson Brown was one of THE most qualified candidates to be nominated for the SCOTUS. She actually had a far better resume than did Amy Coney Barrett. Justice Brown wasn't a DEI choice, but Coney-Barrett probably was.
The majority of PhDs being white may be because THERE SIMPLY MORE WHITE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES than there are Black people. Also it is only in the 19th century that a Black university was founded, Howard. Before that Blacks weren't allowed to get an education with whites.
That cultural group had hundreds of years to catch up with the centuries of opportunities for higher education.
And if you and others don't think Donald Trump is the WORST POTUS this country has had the misfortune to suffer, then you are blind to white privilege. How this country could even THINK of voting for that walking disaster of a human being again is a HUUUUUGE tell on how blind millions of Americans are to the absurdity of white privilege.
You didn't watch the videos. They were from a black scholar.
I do have a life in addition to blogging. Tomorrow I have family coming to visit from New York, and on Thursday, my French family arrive. I didn’t have time to watch any videos because I’ve been busy shopping, cooking, and getting my place ready for my visitors.
Also, my post is about the MAGAs denigrating an entire racial group because of the “ bad apples” within that group, not what you plastered my comment section with. That is a subject that is serious, complicated, and fraught with all sorts of cultural, racial, and biases.
Cultural and racial biases.
Let's be charitable and say nothing any of those commentators wrote is racist. At all. They are however, offensive. Don't the people who make those types of comments about the race of other people care about that?
I get we all disagree with each other politically, but how we choose to live out those disagreements says a lot about us. When people are put on notice, or told that their remarks and comments are hurtful or offensive, we used to try and change. We used to look for a better way to respond.
Now it seems when people hear others are offended, it's a license to dopuble down.
Why?
The many named troll whines that no one reads the copious amounts of distraction they post to return not to clarify a point but to turn all attention to them, the real victim in all of this social upheaval. How very like Former President 45. The stench of systemic racism is heavy on you troll. You may want to take a shower.
And then in walks skud. For a human who says they aren't MAGA, racist, or bigoted they sure do know ALL the catch phrases, all the insults. Weird innit that while denouncing Former President 45 they sound just like him? Again, weird.
For those humans who note Black culture in the USA mimics cultures already here in the States I have a thought or two.
*Perhaps those of us who can trace our families back more than two or three generations should keep our mouths shut when a displaced population does their best to rebuild what was destroyed by old White males backed with the power of the government for centuries.
*Did anyone listen to the article Shaw provided? I got only three or four minutes in when I had to turn it off. What triggered me? A survey result I've heard so many times and it sets me off, guaranteed. To a person those surveyed said yes, they know discrimination happens but they are certain it doesn't happen where they are. Nothing to see here they confidently assert and yet, deep within our rotted systems lurks old White folks who nudge a thing here and there, moving elements to ensure no one who is not White, male, and the correct religion will succeed.
How do I know all this? Experience fighting discrimination for more than a day. Nothing is ever said, nothing needs to be said in public - it's all wink wink, nudge nudge, know what I mean? It is the standard playbook used against BIPOC and LGBTQAI+ communities for centuries. Even our troll's apologetics are part of the plan - well done them for chiming in on cue.
Until We The People can #AuditAllTheThings, until We shake out the constitution, fumigate it, repair the parts torn down by those who wish to bring about a theocracy, and review every line of law for every trace of favoritism We will continue to repeat our past mistakes.
Oh, I do like to provide a solution to the issues I've highlighted - I suggest all the laws get published online and crowdsourced to find errors and places where discrimination has been codified into law. Once the review period is completed then the committees have a chance to review. Where are these committees pulled from? Retirees. Medically disabled. Humans who are bored out of their minds because the Robber Barons in charge of commerce demand a one size fits all kind of employee and so many of us are not. One size fits all that is.
As VP Harris says, it's going to take a lot of work to get the USA back on it's feet but We are Americans and we do not shy away from hard work.
Just a thought or two.
Personal note - health could be better. Accepting my current physical limitations and the associated mental challenges has kept me quiet. What I want to do and what I can do is no longer a Venn diagram with overlap but two distinct and very separate circles. It is what it is. And last note? There is no safety net. The GOP has trashed it to the point it isn't even a safety thread. We The People have so much work to do.
My recollection of history of course has faded over the never ending passage of time. And, as I've grown grey and the muscle fibre has diminished in me I've realized just how little control I, or really any of us have over the continual unfolding of that never ending stream of phenomena called life. Our ancestors were puzzling and struggling over stuff I'm pretty sure, just like we are today. Maybe the more things change the more they stay the same is actually true. You would think humans would have learned by now how to live in peace and harmony. Allowing love and compassion for all to rule our world rather than jealousy, greed, and hate. But then there is that pesky ego. That little guy or gal siting on our shoulder telling us just how special and different we are. Even though were not.
The only thing, the one and only thing we can expect to control is ourselves. Our thoughts, our emotions, our perceptions, our beliefs, our actions, etc. Perhaps just suspending judgement, letting things be just as they naturally are, and relaxing into letting go is the best path to true mindfulness, happiness, and bliss. Maybe it is the only path.
It's sure worth a try.
Absolutely true, Les.
You are far more evolved than most people I know. Your immersion in Buddhism has set you on a path of acceptance, gratitude, and letting go of what we cannot control.
I'm trying. But have yet to reach where you are.
Well Skud... let's get started unraveling your comment. You asked...
...but where did trump [sic] say he was going to be a dictator?
Here's a You Tube clip of him saying he would only be a dictator on Day 1 of his new admin...
Only a Day 1 Dictator
You also asked Where did he [Trump] institute a child separation policy?
Here's a timeline of how that happened. As it is now, the numbers still stand at over 1000 children separated from their parents by the Trump Admin have not been reunited and in fact may have been lost in the system.
Child Separation timeline
Here's a bonus for our friend Skud, commenting on his statement of...
DEI is a policy where you don't take the best qualified but the one who checks the box.
No Skud it is not. DEI is a program to yes, encourage/force/urge companies to consider qualified people of color for positions. For example, it took rules like this to force the NFL to consider hiring a black head coach. Do you really believe that up until the 2000's only one or two black men in all of America were qualified to be a head coach? That's what NFL owners told us for years.
Now those teams are required to at least consider qualified black coaches and guess what? Those men who had been Offensive and Defensive Coordinators, the top stepping stone to a head coach position, started getting hired.
Were NFL teams hiring unqualified or not the best black men? Hell no, not at all. But it essentially took a DEI initiative, called the Rooney Rule, to even get those men an interview to see if in fact, they were the best.
Maybe as a libertarian, you, like Rand Paul believe a company has a right to be racist. I don't and most Americans don't either.
I get it, there are always policies many of us don't like. But do your homework. Read, learn, get educated and for God's sake, turn off FOX News, avoid Breitbart, the NY Post the Epoch Times and read some other sources that question your biases.
Joe "Al Campanis" Conservative seems to be following here and elsewhere his belief that numbers or percentages measure ability or level of qualifications.
It's such a self fulfilling philosophy... don't let black people study in the best schools or have access to equal education opportunities across the country, then use sub par education results to argue as we open those opportunities up, that their marks or grades do not warrant access.
Yes, stand on merit, even as some people don't have the same opportunities to even play the game.
I thought when the O'Malley family cut Al loose, we were moving past this BS. I guess I was wrong.
Good work Joe...
I made the decision to immerse myself in the practice of Buddhism, Tibetan Buddhism, about 5 years ago due to immense confusion and the suffering it caused me and those closet to me.
The path requires discipline, dedication, and devotion. It us not easy, nor should it be. But, if one is willing and can stick with it it does become easier. In fact, it is, in truth, more a matter of keeping an open and non judgemental mind as well as recognizing the true interconnectedness of everything in existence.
The path will fill the rest of my life as I will remain the seeker of wisdom having set my feet on that path.
I realize Shaw that I've just touched, tasted if you will, the tremendous benefits available to EVERYONE that seeks and stays on the path to realization of the natural order and the oneness that we ALL are a part of.
Hint: Understanding emptiness and impermanence first on the conceptual level and then in a felt sense way was, for me, the key to things beginning to fall into place.
We all have Buddhanature. We just all don't realize it. For Christians it is Christnature. For in truth they are, one in the same. You can thank the RCC for most of western society not understanding this. Like in most things, the RCC had to edit the teachings of Jesus so as to give POWER to the church and insure its primacy.
Anyhoo, I think you're probably further along than you think, and I, not as far down the path as you might think.
Namaste
:)
Joe "Al Campanis" Conservative seems to be following here and elsewhere his belief that numbers or percentages measure ability or level of qualifications.
Yeah, there's a whole industry that does it called "statistics". Baseball and football player's salaries are largely based upon it. There's also a huge gambling industry that relies upon them, too.
Yes, let's talk percentages.
While -FJ likes to focus on Blacks having a lower percentage of physicists, let's examine the percentage of Jews who vote for Democrats, shall we?
Turns out that about 75% of them do.
So what makes -FJ so special in his support for Trump? Can Jews be authoritarians, racists, and bigots?
We know racists and bigots are Trump's base since his racist birtherism gained him his initial following. Their Confederate flags and "Camp Auschwitz" t-shirts also suggest what they really are.
So, the reason -FJ is a Trump supporter would most likely indicate the tendency of any group to have a quarter to a third with authoritarian personalities. The redneck neo-Confederate white bubbas share a fondness for authoritarianism (Trumpism) along with Stephen Miller and Alan Dershowitz...And -FJ. These are also -FJ's political allies. Yes, even the tiki-torch neo-Nazis of "Unite the Right" rally of "very fine people".
Bibi Netanyahu is the most famous Israeli authoritarian Jew. Is it really so odd that both the "Master Race" and "God's Zionist Chosen", along with the "real Christian Americans" for Trump could contain authoritarians capable of extreme hate and cruelty?
I don't KNOW what this means, but it does strongly suggest the likely nature of our MAGA Jew's personality.
While -FJ likes to focus on Blacks having a lower percentage of physicists, let's examine the percentage of Jews who vote for Democrats, shall we?
Turns out that about 75% of them do.
Checked lately?
Former President Trump has moved into the lead among Jewish voters in deep-blue New York.
Trump garnered the support of 50% of likely Jewish voters in New York, according to a Siena Research Institute poll released Tuesday, a slight lead over Vice President Harris who garnered the selection of 49% of respondents.
While the lead for Trump is slim, it marks a dramatic change from the former president’s prospects against President Biden, who in June led Trump among likely Jewish voters, 52%-46%, in the state.
Thanks Kamala! You GO girl! Don that keffiyeh!
used too.
Next week's "Free Palestine" protests in Chicago should seal the deal for Trump!
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