UPDATE:
"The last words the jury heard before the prosecutors rested their case: -
Defendant Elmer Steward Rhodes, Oath Keepers founder, saying:
“We should have brought rifles. We could have fixed it right then & there. I’d hang f**king Pelosi from the lamppost.”
In the courtroom, you could have heard a firing pin drop.
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Guess they'll learn the hard way that violence violence breeds more violence and it often comes home to roost.
Yes, I voted for Donald J Trump. And I will again... If you tell me that I was wrong, then I would ask you Why? And who else? Certainly NOT our Current Delusional President.
A man who would allow 3 Million foreign invaders into our country without Vetting them? Without their being Vaccinated as our own citizens are getting Fired for? With allowing Criminals who are bringing in Drugs that KILL our children? Only to get themselves more Votes!
I have a job and pay taxes. I have a lawful license to carry. I have a wife and two kids and NO criminal record. I support low taxes, a strong POLICE FORCE, who are the best in the world at capturing Criminals only to see our elected peopl and their appointees let them go free without any Bail, only to be back on the streets committing Crimes, and Murders again! , We have ZERO secure borders, ZERO energy independence and a powerful military to act as a deterrent to our enemies, only to have their hands tired behind their backs. . I support women’s sports as I have two daughters. I believe that this administrations gender MADNESS is a disease and not something we should accept as being normal . Meaning biological Boys should not be allowed to compete in physical sports against biological Girls no matter what Gender they identify as. And they MUST stay out of the opposite sex’s Bathrooms!
I believe in fair elections where one should have to present ID to vote and REQUEST a mail in ballot if one cannot vote in person due to being out of state or medically unable to only. And only ONE Election day is enough. It was enough for over 100 years, why change it.
How the HELL does that make me an enemy of America and Democracy? Joe Biden needs to explain this. If he’s able to without someone’s help, as he does to walk him off the stage without answering questions!.
And yes, how about answering our Questions without sending out that Moron to try it and Fail!
Like When will someone actually Visit our Border? Why do we allow these invaders to throw Rock, at our Border Agents? Why is this Inflation going on when it is not necessary? Why did Biden shout down the Pipelines. Why is he call Americans these Disgusting names. When will these people do something about this HIGH CRIME RATE that is making us citizens afaid to use the Subways system, or even walk down the streets. Why are our Prices so High at the Supermarkets, and the Restaurants?
Why is “Climate Control a Higher priority than ANY of the above?
And No, it wasn’t an “Insurrection”. It was a riot. An Insurrection is a legal term that requires an ARMED organization and planning. And not part of any Rally That go our of hand. HE NEVER answers any of those questions . But like a Typical Lib, just repeating his same old Dumb, Lying evens. Talking about LIES. HID SON BO WAS NOT KILLED IN IRAQI He died from Cancer here in America! Does he have to even LYE about that? And another BIG LYE is that the “SO CALLED “Insurrection” attempt is where 140 of the Supposedly Fellow Cops Were Injured, and that a few of them were Killed! That might be the biggest LIE of the Century
To preserve America’s Democracy this CRAP must be stopped ,
To "The Political Chic"
This is from your comment:
"I have a wife and two kids" and NO criminal record. I support low taxes, a strong POLICE FORCE, who are the best in the world at capturing Criminals only to see our elected peopl and their appointees let them go free without any Bail, only to be back on the streets committing Crimes, and Murders again!
Thank you for coming out and admitting you're in a "Two-Mommy" marriage -- a lesbian! Considering how a majority of Evangelical Trumpers feel about that, you are brave to publicly admit to this.
I wish you, your wife, and your two children well.
I'm not sure how your lesbian marriage fits in with your political ideology, but that's your business, not mine.
In any event, I applaud your courage in telling us all about your liberal idea of a family of two Mommies! Good for you!
OK Ms. Grammar Queen, so I made a error the sentence should have read
"I AM a wife and two kids"
Lets see if you will post this or will you just leave it as you always love to show your Moronic ways to the public!
Chic... like Shaw, I'll weigh in too...
Let's talk about voter fraud, not part of Shaw's post, but par for the course for people like you, You never respond to a post, rather you just spout whatever you want.
So as it relates to you wanting secure elections, I am with you. As I am sure everyone who comments here is too. No one I know wants to see fraud in US elections. So let me ask you a question...
Can you cite any evidence of significant numbers of people who were not registered or US citizens with a right to vote who voted?
That's it. One simple question. Because to date, I've yet to find a conservative who can or will even try to give us an answer.
The Political Chic
Typing "I have a wife and two kids," instead of "I am a wife and two kids (how can you be both a wife AND two kids?) See? It's not a grammatical error at all. You typed a true statement "I have a wife and two kids." Now you claim you meant to type "I AM a wife and two kids?" That's impossible. So, we'll believe you meant the first, not the second.
We understand your eagerness to walk back what you admitted in public to us all. But just know that your alternative family life-style is safe here on a Liberal blog.
Unlike the far right GQPers, we accept gays and lesbians and who they love and marry.
Congratulations, again, for being honest and brave and coming out to us.
You are safe here.
So the Political Chic is in a lesbian relationship with two kids? That's unexpected. My question is why the hell is she a Trumper? Doesn't she know that marriage arrangement is hated by Christo-fascist Trumpers????
Anyhoo, good for Political Chic for coming out to you!
Dave M., I stopped reading after the beginning of the first paragraph in her comment. I was so surprised!A
But thanks for finishing reading it for me. Don't hold your breath for an answer backed up with evidence. There is none.
Apparently people like the Political Chic feel they can continue to push the narrative of a stolen election, even after two years and zero evidence for it. IMO, it's a sort of mania that's gripped the GQP, and they can't let it go.
PS. President Biden's speech last night was excellent. But the MAGAs on FAUX NOOZ and various Trumpublicans, like Tom Cotton, characterized it as "smearing 50% of Americans," (A BALD FACED LIE,) and a "rant." ,
President Biden pleaded for Americans to protect democracy, whether they are Democrats or Republicans. How is that "smearing" anyone?
That is why I hold out no hope for this country. As long as we have hundreds of thousands of people who think like the Political Chic -- making accusations with no evidence, and cable outlets like FAUX who deliberately lie about what we saw with our own eyes, our country's on a slide into chaos, mayhem, and anti-democratic rule.
Brynn Tannehill:
The credible, close-call attempt to kill or maim Speaker Nancy Pelosi for a second time, and the GOP response, signals how close the US is to the end of the road as a Democracy. It also tells us about what comes after the fall.
The GOP has generally treated it as a joke, denied that DePape was conservative, or spread conspiracy theories that it was a gay quarrel during a hookup. There's been a lot of wink and nudge, "Sure it was bad, but whatever gets Nancy out, amiright?" comments like Youngkin's.
There has been almost NOTHING done to deter other would be assassins from killing Democratic officials. When people protested outside homes of SCOTUS justices, security was immediately increased. Dead silence now.
The difference is that Dems and Republicans are willing to protect conservative officials, but Republicans aren't willing to protect Dems, because they know that actual violence against officials is driven by the right wing base.
There is the implicit assumption by Republican leaders that violence will come for their opponents, and not for them.
And at the moment, they're correct.
But, most of them weren't in Iraq from 2004-2006."
(cont.)
Just how does a country pay for a strong police force, border security and a strong military with low taxes? Should we just outsource everything to private companies? What could possibly go wrong?
Someone believes in ONE election day and then goes on to state that it has been good for over 100 years, why change it? I will pose the same question regarding voter IDs. There is no language in the Constitution about having to provide IDs to vote, yet the right for every American to vote IS in the Constitution. It has been good for over a hundred years, why change it?
(cont.)
Brynn Tannehill
I had a front row seat as Sunnis, cut off from power, formed AQI and started launching a campaign of terror aimed at government officials, particularly judges. Targeting family members was very much part of their CONOPS.
It didn't take long before retaliations began.
Baghdad segregated rapidly, as mixed neighborhoods forced out people who were the local minority. Similar (violent) sorting happened among Iraqi Kurds in the north.
One lesson I took away is that once political murders are normalized, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It turns into an accelerating cycle of violence, particularly when both sides feel like it's a matter of group survival.
Part of the violence in Iraq in that period was the settling of old scores. Saddam had displaced, gassed, and murdered innumerable Kurds. He had kept Shiites (who form a plurality of the population) powerless and second class citizens for decades.
In the US, the GOP intends to seize power, and never let go, much as Saddam did with the Ba'ath Party. They're not hiding it. I'm not engaging in hyperbole or putting words in people's mouths. This is coming straight from their candidates.
If the GOP does win, they're promising to settle scores. Here we have the former President, and likely the next administration, promising to lock up journalists and have them raped until they give up confidential sources.
"In the US, the GOP intends to seize power and never let go." --Brynn Tannehill
Trump-backed Wisconsin GOP candidate and 2020 election denier claims Republicans will 'never lose another election' in the state if he gets voted into office
PL, If we can give away billions to pay off privileged kids college and billions to feel good about helping the climate change movement we should be able to hire more border patrol and cops. That or we could tighten the border with a wall and we would need fewer agents. We could also divert some of the IRS hiring to border patrol hiring. I do agree that we need more than one voting day and guess what we have it and it's called absentee voting where you have to request a ballot to vote. I don't understand why we vote in person on Tuesday and not just make it Friday, Saturday and Sunday but I guess that makes to much sense.
Ms. Shaw, How was the speakers life in danger when she was several thousands of miles away? Is this another AOC my life was in danger during the infamous Jan 6th riots when she was not in the same building?
Although her emotions go away from her you did something I haven't seen you do and that was outwardly attack a poster for making a mistake but this one really rung your bell. Biden is incompetent and he does demonize the republicans because he is told that is the best course of action. His campaign was all about reuniting the country and now he is doing just the opposite. Everything is blamed on Fox News as being the biased media but that is one against CNN, MSNBC, MSDNC, ABC, CBS, NBS, NYT, WAPO and hundreds of others. It is almost impossible to get honest information because all of the media outlets are so biased. The democrats support censorship and are totally intolerant of any competing ideas.
OT:
Believe the Trumpers when they say they want to get rid of Social Security and Medicare:
Evan McMullin 🇺🇸
US Senate candidate, UT
Mike Lee was caught on camera saying that it will be his "objective to phase out social security" and that he'll "pull it up by its roots."
https://twitter.com/evanmcmullin/status/1587829271094968320
Mike Lee wants to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid! FACT!
Democracy, unlike fascism, is defined by authentic public participation and authentic citizen representation. Getting there from here is a continuing struggle upon which our rights and existence depends. The majority of us understand the level of rot and corruption that cripples democracy, sickening our country and world for the enrichment of a few like an insatiable parasite. Democracy cannot exist when elections are shaped by private money and representation is purchased by the highest bidders.
Close to 80% of working people support universal healthcare, climate action, voting rights, and women's reproductive freedom. These priorities are subverted by corporate media and politicians funded by big business interests whose priorities are legislated at the expense of our freedoms, our health, and the future of life on earth.
skud: "Ms. Shaw, How was the speakers life in danger when she was several thousands of miles away?"
The intruder and attempted deadly assaulter with the hammer and zip ties who called "Where's Nancy!" didn't know she was gone. He said in his statements to the SF police that he wanted to wait until she returned so he could "knee-cap her," and put her (an 80 year old grandmother) in a wheelchair.
You and others like you show your sickening partisanship by trying to dismiss A SECOND ATTEMPT ON SPEAKER PELOSI's life (she is second in line for the presidency) as a ho-hum incident and nothing more. What kind of people do that? Do you ever self-examine what that sort of partisanship has done to your humanity???
skud: "Although her emotions go away from her you did something I haven't seen you do and that was outwardly attack a poster for making a mistake but this one really rung your bell."
Are you speaking of the "Political Chic?" Who often changes her name to the more correct "Political Chick?", since "chic" is a French word meaning "stylish," and pronounced "SHEEK?"
The "Political Chic" is a troll from Lisa's WYD and obviously copied and pasted some screed it found somewhere on the internet. And the "Political Chic" pasted it without reading it. That's why I ridiculed the troll. I'm onto the troll's fake outrage. What the troll, Political Chic, pasted wasn't even its own. And the fact that it said "I have a wife and two kids..." proves that the troll is a fake. Perhaps you were fooled by it. I wasn't.
skud: "The democrats support censorship and are totally intolerant of any competing ideas."
Oh gawd! The TRUMPUBLICAN governors of two of our most populous states, Texas and Florida, are okay with banning books, saying "gay," and teaching its schoolkids about the history of slavery in the US. The RED states of America have essentially banned a medical procedure that affects girls and women because they are intolerant of any competing ideas.
Please get your talking points straight before coming here.
Also, when Joe Biden won the presidency the party once known as the "Republican Party" (which no longer exists) believed Trumps Big Lie and attacked the U.S. Capitol (looking to kill Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi) and to stop the Constitutionally mandated electoral certification BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED A STUPID, TREACHEROUS, DESTRUCTIVE LIE by a sitting POTUS, Donald Trump.
That had never before happened in this country. And here you are bellyaching about things that pale in comparison to the destruction of our American democracy by millions of benighted MAGAs who willingly follow a Liar, a Cheat, and a Fraud, and who STOLE government top secret documents.
As other people have said, inflation, border problems, crime, -- all of that has always been with us in other times, and they with us in the present time.
You may not worry about losing American democracy to proto-fascist MAGAs, but millions and millions of worried Americans, like me, do. It's happening right in front of our noses!
“To see what is in front of one’s nose needs a constant struggle.”
― George Orwell
Open your eyes.
dunkinville "Close to 80% of working people support universal healthcare, climate action, voting rights, and women's reproductive freedom. These priorities are subverted by corporate media and politicians funded by big business interests whose priorities are legislated at the expense of our freedoms, our health, and the future of life on earth."
This is the truth. Thanks.
Not Crazy Trumper
Trumpublican Mike Lee HAS SAID HE WANTS TO END SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, AND MEDICAID. PERIOD. TRUTH.
He was recorded at a private meeting saying so. Truth.
possumlady
yes. But the Trumpublicans want to make voting more difficult. Some Trumpublican states have even passed laws that make it illegal to serve WATER! freakin' WATER to voters standing in long lines waiting to vote!
Do you think skudrunner has an explanation for that stupid law?
Dave M/
"Let's talk about voter fraud, not part of Shaw's post, but par for the course for people like you, You never respond to a post, rather you just spout whatever you want."
You will not hear from "Political Chic," because he/she is a troll. That comment was copied and pasted from somewhere on the internet, and is not an original idea from "Political Chic."
I was just playing with the troll. And even when it tried to explain the "error" of its writing about its "wife and two kids," statement, it forgot to change "and two kids," as a real correction would have. Instead it just changed "I HAVE a wife and two kids," to "I AM a wife and two kids," which is nonsensical. The troll "Political Chic" exposed itself.
"Political Chic" doesn't have the ability to answer your question. All it can do is copy, cut, and paste other people's ideas. (and not even bother to proof read!)
A few simple questions.
Do you think it's good or bad for our country and our democracy that so many Republicans keep harping on a falsehood- that Trump actually won the election and, somehow, beyond all the recounts, audits, court cases lost, they are being responsible in continuing to make those statements?
Is it helpful to our system of free elections - our foundation of freedom - to keep lying?
Why are they doing it?
Are hundreds of Democratic candidates spreading such lies or just pointing out the damage and danger of doing it?
Bash Biden for pointing all this out?
OK.
But, show your cards.
Do you buy the lie?
If not, why shouldn't we all be stunned by how a lie has become gospel for one of our two parties - HALF our people, HALF our democracy.
Skud, if you re-read my post, I did not complain about the cost of funding police, military, etc., I commented on another post stating they believed in those things but also lower taxes. My comment was how do you pay for all those things with lower taxes?
Also, I never complained about one day voting, I was commenting on the poster who said everyone should have an ID when voting, along with only one day voting. They claimed the one day voting has been good for a hundred years, then why change. I stated that there has never been a requirement for showing an ID when voting and that has been fine for a hundred years, then why change?
Glenn Kirschner
The last words the jury heard before the prosecutors rested their case: -
Defendant Elmer Steward Rhodes, Oath Keepers founder, saying: “We should have brought rifles. We could have fixed it right then & there. I’d hang f**king Pelosi from the lamppost.”
In the courtroom, you could have heard a firing pin drop.
It appears 35% of America (maybe more) desire authoritarianism. We'll know for certain after Nov. 8th sometime.
A large number seem to have lost their minds and willingly accept and believe any bullsh*t the Trumpublicans toss out.
It does seem interesting that the democrats hold the house, senate, executive branch and 90% of the media yet everything going on is because of republicans.Keaira Bennefield was killed by her husband after he was released from jail on no bail after she pleaded he would kill her. Zeldin was stabbed by a crazy yet he was released on no bail. What do these have in common, law and order democrats let this happen.
Two democrats are for eliminating police but they are few and one republican says eliminate SS and medicare and he is the majority. Where is reason and logic in our political system. Now we have a desperate democrat saying if republicans are elected they will jail all blacks, really. We do need SS reform but not eliminated as some democrats preach is going to happen.
Lets get back to basics, free college tuition for all entitled kids, guaranteed income for all and no punishment for the commitment of a violent crime. Works for some but not the majority.
Possum... Re Taxes...
I had a blue checked person on twitter tell me when I asked in response to their call for the elimination of the IRS and taxes how we would pay for the military, social security and medicare that those items are funded by the US government and not taxes.
And that is one reason why we are in such a fix...
Funded by the government, but not taxes???
sorry Ms Shaw but I don't go to that blog so I don't know who PC is.
I just told you upthread who PC is: political Chic is a troll who copies and pastes stuff it finds on the internet, and doesn’t even read it. It’s a frequent poster at WYD.
The MAGA-GOP is presenting themselves as 'tough on crime,' yet they were wholly behind the violent, attempted coup on January 6th.
Voters are actually going to trust a party determined not to get at the bottom of a riot in which their ginned-up constituents were calling for the literal execution of their own Vice President and the sitting speaker of the house?
Your resident troll, skudder has nothing to say about this? He's worried about crime and gas prices? What about the crime of overthrowing the U.S. government by sedition and called for the death of a sitting vice president? If we don't have a country that condemns those malicious crimes, all else is lost.
Much of the Republican Party has shown itself to be a collection of outlaws and pro-murderers -- see Paul Pelosi's attack and twice wanting to kill Nancy Pelosi!
Never thought this would happen in the USA, but here we are, thanks to Trump and his supporters.
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