Frequent commenter and guest post contributor, Dave Miller, left this in the comments in the post below. But I think it needs a post of its own so that the Trumpers who frequently come here and read my blog can see what Trump and Vance did to Springfield, Ohio.
Why would they deliberately lie about events in Springfield? Their reasons for spreading a story they knew to be false can only be to foment mistrust, fear, and rage in white populations against P.O.C. -- especially the LEGAL Haitian migrants residing there.
Trump and Vance must take part of the responsibility for the bomb threats and other malicious actions and death threats against the LEGAL Haitian community as a result of their deliberate disgusting lies and shameless bigotry.
Dave Miller:
As the GOP, the gang that can't shoot straight continues to double, triple and quadruple down on the Springfield, Ohio lies, a couple of facts came out yesterday, one from the Trump favoring Wall Street Journal [WSJ].
1. The woman from Springfield who made the missing cat story at ground zero of this MAGA debacle, said that after making her missing cat report on Aug 27, and before all this blew up, her cat, Miss Sassy came home by September 1 and she had long since apologized to the Haitian woman she had wrongly accused.
Notably, this was before VP candidate Vance made his first cat post on September 9. This is being widely reported, along with the woman's statement in the news
2. The WSJ is out with new reporting showing that Vance on September 9, when he made the cat story and sensation and before Sept Sept 12 when former President Trump spoke of it at the debate, that the Trump/Vance campaign had been made aware the story was false.
Let these two facts sink in. Both Trump and Vance knew they were sharing false stories, did not care, and never considered how their lies might impact the Haitian community in Springfield. They decided to lie to the American people and their voters, putting people's lives in danger.
For the sake of a story they knew to be false.
“They’re coming from the Congo, they’re coming from Africa, they’re coming from the Middle East, they’re coming from all over the world, Asia… and ya gotta get rid of these people!”
— BrooklynDad_Defiant!☮️ (@mmpadellan) September 19, 2024
This is some of the most un-American shit I've ever heard. Shame on those applauding it. pic.twitter.com/zXlBYLatEf
10 comments:
It's now as if they are PROUD of their racism.
There is NO reason to not see them for the neo-Nazis they truly are.
They are the hood and swastika gang of "vermin" Trump projects.
Nearly 1/2 of the nation knows this and simply does not care.
Soon nobody will. Project 2025 will ultimately insure this.
At least for a sustained period of time until the Trumpers realize they were screwed by the gop goo and the malignant narcissist Trump.
Remember when Frump wanted to cut foreign immigrants except for Norwegians? It is still a big joke in Oslo. Oofta. Before this mess is over,
the Psychology texts will have to add a new chapter.
Project 2025 is not being supported by either trump or jd. Another lie is nearly 1/2 the nation simply does not care so are you saying 160 million people doesn't care.
I don't understand how anyone can support harris when even she said the last four years have been a disaster, but of course she is going to move ahead. Why hasn't she done anything for the middle class in the last four years except promote inflation, give money to rich kids and spend our money recklessly. We can look forward to more spending, more regulations and more special interest politics. But the good thing is we may elect someone who makes us feel good.
Sure, their mendacity is horrible. But it's what it points to that's worse.
Here we have two ppl who want to lead our country, our nation.
And both of those people are fundamentally unable to deal with or process information, true information, that does not confirm, or comport to their biases. So rather than, when confronted with info that seems to contradict what they've already determined to be true and accurate, changing tactics or their path, they double down.
We know this all to be true by their actions related to Springfield, Ohio, as documented by various news orgs, including FOX.
Here's why this tendancy is a huge potential problem for all of us...
If they are elected, a very real possibility, do we want people unable to process info that changes what they've already decided to be true and accurate in regards to situations on the ground, having the nuclear codes?
Are they temperamentally suited for the job, based on what we have seen?
Lincoln was frequently faced with situations such as this and had to make numerous decisions on the fly, firing a handful of generals during the Civil War.
Is it fair to ask if Trump and Vance are up to the task, based on what we've seen of their ability to deal with crisis and changing facts on the ground?
Trump never understood that Norwegians and other Scandinavians didn't want to immigrate to the US and have to give up their national health care, child care, and maternal leave. The happiest people on the planet are from Scandinavia, the Netherlands, and the Danes! All of them covered by national health. Trump has a concept for a health plan; those countries actually HAVE health care plans.
"Project 2025 is not being supported by either trump or jd"
You are wrong on that:
"While many of the report’s more polarizing proposals come straight from the MAGA playbook, Project 2025 also raises thorny issues even within the populist right.
From immigration and presidential power to climate and abortion, hot-button topics abound in Project 2025. Early attention focused on its controversial call to reinstate the Trump initiative known as Schedule F, which would turn tens of thousands of federal civil servants into political appointees, allowing them to be fired for reasons other than poor performance.
Mr. Trump had instituted Schedule F late in his term as part of his effort to dismantle what he calls “the deep state” – the layers of employees in the government bureaucracy who he believed had slow-walked or even thwarted some of his policy goals. President Joe Biden quickly reversed the order upon taking office."
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"The web of connections between the project and people in Mr. Trump’s orbit is extensive. Dozens of officials and cabinet secretaries from his first term spearheaded or contributed to the Heritage report. Some – such as former budget director Russell Vought and former Homeland Security Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli – could play key roles in a second Trump term.
Mr. Trump’s running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance, also wrote the foreword for a forthcoming book by Mr. Roberts, titled “Dawn’s Early Light: Taking Back Washington to Save America,” in which the vice presidential nominee calls for followers to “circle the wagons and load the muskets.” He describes Mr. Roberts’ ideas as an “essential weapon” in the “fights that lay ahead,” according to The New Republic, which downloaded a galley before it was removed from the NetGalley platform."
It's easy for you to claim that neither Trump nor Vance know anything about P2025 because you apparently get your information from propaganda sites. Both Trump and Vance absolutely KNOW ABOUT P2025.
The above bolded quotes are from The Christian Science Monitor.
skud: "I don't understand how anyone can support harris when even she said the last four years have been a disaster..."
You don't link to anything that verifies that statement, so you're either making it up or you're parroting some Trumper propaganda site. Which is it? Please show us where she trashed what President Biden's administration has done over the past 4 years. I demand it, because you come here all the time and make these statements that are not backed by evidence. So, again, you've made it up, or you've found it on some unreliable Trumper source.
You ask why VP Harris hasn't done anything for the middle class over the past 4 years.
Again, you show an appalling lack of knowledge of what our Constitution lays out for the duties of a vice president.
A VP has absolutely no legislative power. She cannot propose any bills that go to the House and Senate to enact any laws. None. Her job is to step in should anything terrible happen to the POTUS, and to break a vote tie in the Senate. Period.
I have heard many MAGA say the same thing, which depresses me because then I know they know nothing about the duties of a VPOTUS, and what's worse, they don't care to inform themselves, because that would show their ignorance.
You mention she's proposes to give people stuff and increase our deficit? Trump promised to make IVF treatments FREE! Do you know what one treatment costs? The cost of in vitro fertilization (IVF) can vary widely, but on average, a single cycle can cost between $12,000 and $30,000. Many women go through more than one treatment! How much do you think that will cost the tax payers? Huh?
Yet you've said nothing about Trump's freebies to buy votes? Really, skud? REALLY!!!?
There you go again. He said IVF paid for by insurance. Trump said he was not in favor of 2025 but I guess that is a lie because it came from his mouth. Harris cast the vote for the massive give a way called the inflation reduction act or support you electric school bus. You are correct that as VP she was worthless and as the border control person, AKA border czar, she did nothing but her past positions on energy, taxes, illegals, criminals show how she would lead. The democrats and harris are all about regulations and government control of everything. There are some people who can think for themselves and some who cannot.
If A New Way Forward does not mean the past was horrible then what does it mean. In case you have not heard her say that tune to any station and she will repeat it.
From NBC News: EXCLUSIVE
DONALD TRUMP
“Trump says he wants to make IVF treatments paid for by government or insurance companies if elected
In an interview with NBC News, the former president defended himself over abortion rights and said either the government or insurance companies would pay for IVF if he's elected.”
How is he going to make private insurance companies pay for these very expensive procedures, when insurance companies dispute paying for less expensive procedures? And he did say the government would pay.
VP Harris was never the border czar. Please stop posting misinformation. If you claim she was useless as VP, then every VP that ever served was as well. We know that you don’t like Democrats no matter who they are and how well they do their jobs. We also know that you very often post stuff that’s inaccurate or just plain bunk.
We’ve asked you to provide links to your claims and you rarely comply.
Here’s a regulation that President Obama passed: No guns to be sold to people with mental health issues. Trump got rid of that as soon as he got in the WH. BOTH MEN WHO ATTEMPTED TO DO TRUMP IN WERE MENTALLY DISTURBED AND EASILY OBTAINED THEIR WEAPONS OF WAR. How’s that for cutting off your nose to spite your face?
A new way forward to many of us means NO MORE TRUMP AND MAGA!! We hope to be rid of that pestilence forever more!!!
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