Void of compassion, guided and ruled by greed, and fueled by ignorance the oligarchs and You Know Who will bleed Americans to serve thcontrol. insatiable desire for wealth and contol.
How did the current administration allow this to happen. Looks like they didn't select the most capable people to run HHS but hopefully that will change.
The evil perpetrated by Health Insurance companies is more than inflated medicine prices. There is a rider in all health care policies called Out of Pocket Maximum and Lifetime Maximum. OPM means the client pays up to a set dollar amount and then the insurance company takes over. LTM means once a client's payouts meet a specific dollar amount then the insurance policy is fulfilled and you, the client, will receive no more coverage from that specific company. And good luck getting another company to cover you due to 'excessive medical costs'.
It's a racket pure and simple. We The People almost had Universal Health Care. Several colleagues were working with study groups to hammer out the hows and wherebys. Almost had it with the ACA but the GOP stood in the way. Guess their sideline grifting depended on their constituents poor health.
There are a huge honking number of Democratic Party voters who chose to sit out this election because "reasons" whom are now panicking because everything wise minds said would happen back in the campaign days is unfolding here/now. Usually I'd offer compassion but when there exists the very clear possibility that me and mine are liable to get killed? Make amends and then we can talk.
Sen John McCain was a hero for saving the ACA. As imperfect as it is, the alternative was much much worse. I saw the numbers. Worse to the power of worse.
I was at the club yesterday. We just got a new golf simulator. I shot a 75 at Pebble Beach. The consensus was that it was moochers that relied on health insurance from these companies anyway. The biggest regret was that our assessments may go up because a rich guy was killed and the rest of us will have to make up the difference since he isn't a member anymore. Ah who cares. The landlords will just raise rents and the rest of the members can lay off some people. My friend Biffy is simply putting off getting a new set of clubs and a Rolls till the new Trump tax cuts start. That guy was chubby and didn't come to the Epstein Memorial dinner anyway.
You and others like you are the reason we have the convicted felon and adjudicated sexual assaulter for the next 4 years. You believe any crap that your Fox or other non-news propaganda media feed you. Did it ever occur to you to check to see if what you wrote here was correct? Of course not. People like you prefer to pass around rumors, gossip, and untruths.
If only people like you would take the time to verify the gossip and rumors who hear before spreading lies and untruths, this would be a healthier country.
In general, no. Undocumented immigrants are largely ineligible for federal healthcare programs like Medicaid and Medicare and are ineligible for most federal health care benefits, aside from emergency care.
If you read the article, you will find that undocumented immigrants receive medical care in life or death situations. So, yes, some undocumented immigrants DO receive health care in dire situations.
Would you prefer that they suffer and die in agony? Is that the kind of country you'd be proud of? Maybe it is. In fact, I believe many MAGA would prefer that instead of doing the humanly decent thing.
They learned very well from the indecent man/felon they returned to the WH.
"Why didn't you ask that same question of Trump's HHS cabinet head?" Because for the next two days the mass pardon criminals president is in charge. After Monday that will change and trump will be responsible so I will reserve judgement until after that. I don't have faith in any politician and believe they are all crooks who only look after themselves. You have faith in all democrats and think they do whats best for us. Why doesn't everyone receive healthcare in dire situations instead of having to go into massive debt to pay for care. Why doesn't the federal government support veterans better. Easy answer, because it is controlled by politicians and doing the right thing doesn't benefit them so they would rather place blame than seek solutions.
Well if they can't afford it and they can't pay for it and they still get it then Americans who can't afford it should still have gotten it instead of getting fined for it . Didn't get health programs but they get health care they can go to a Dr it can't be turned down. The amount to babies born to illegal immigrants overwhelmed our health care system especially on the southern border if they came over here purposely pregnant what do you think a lot of those hospitals are in the red down there
Lisa: Well if they can't afford it and they can't pay for it and they still get it then Americans who can't afford it should still have gotten it instead of getting fined for it.
That's a great argument in favor of universal health care for Americans. The Democrats (and some Republicans) have been lobbying for that for years.
Again, you posted gossip, rumors, and untruths:
Are undocumented migrants overwhelming our health care system?
No, babies born to undocumented migrants have not overwhelmed the US health care system. In fact, undocumented immigrants use fewer health care services than US-born citizens. However, undocumented immigrants face many challenges accessing health care, which can negatively impact their health and financial security.
Immigrants, particularly those who are undocumented, use less health care, including emergency room care, than people born in the U.S. Overall, research shows that immigrants, including lawfully present and undocumented immigrants, use less health care than U.S.-born citizens. Moreover, the KFF/LA Times Survey of Immigrants shows that among immigrant adults, likely undocumented immigrants are less likely than lawfully present immigrants and naturalized citizens to report seeking or receiving care in the U.S. or having a health care visit in the past year. About six in ten (63%) likely undocumented immigrant adults report a health care visit in the past year compared with 74% of lawfully present immigrant adults and 82% of naturalized citizen adults.
Try looking up the truth, Lisa, instead of repeating lies. It's soooooo liberating!
Skud asked... "Why doesn't everyone receive healthcare in dire situations instead of having to go into massive debt to pay for care. Why doesn't the federal government support veterans better."?
Such a great question Skud.
Here's some reality around your question. What you are asking for is exactly what the Bernie Sanders ppl have been calling for years. And while yes, many on the left have castigated Bernie for this option, they do so fearful of the political reality.
They fear the political reality of attacks from the GOP and other conservative lawmakers and leaders who call them communists and socialists for even proposing exactly what you seem to be promoting!
So tell us Skud... how can we get those health care options so many of us lefties and yes, Democrats would love to see and enact, if when push comes to shove, folks like you keep voting GOP and for leaders like Trump?
Lisa does bring up a good point. Undocumented or as some say illegal aliens here can and do access health care everyday, without paying.
And everyday that happens, those health care providers incur a cost that must be covered by someone. What that means is this... Those health care providers will take those costs and spread them out over clients who can pay. Clients like everyone of us and our insurance companies.
So conservatives are correct when they say our health care costs more because of illegal immigration. But our health care also costs more everyday because we treat millions of Americans all the time who also cannot pay their healthcare bills.
Now without demonizing anyone, maybe someone here can come up with a fix to this reality, discarded veterans, underinsured senior citizens and our increasing homeless population.
Because if you're a MAGA supporter and can't, then you're not serious and are MAGA solely for the power rush that comes from your tribe's label.
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Void of compassion, guided and ruled by greed, and fueled by ignorance the oligarchs and You Know Who will bleed Americans to serve thcontrol. insatiable desire for wealth and contol.
How did the current administration allow this to happen. Looks like they didn't select the most capable people to run HHS but hopefully that will change.
The evil perpetrated by Health Insurance companies is more than inflated medicine prices. There is a rider in all health care policies called Out of Pocket Maximum and Lifetime Maximum. OPM means the client pays up to a set dollar amount and then the insurance company takes over. LTM means once a client's payouts meet a specific dollar amount then the insurance policy is fulfilled and you, the client, will receive no more coverage from that specific company. And good luck getting another company to cover you due to 'excessive medical costs'.
It's a racket pure and simple. We The People almost had Universal Health Care. Several colleagues were working with study groups to hammer out the hows and wherebys. Almost had it with the ACA but the GOP stood in the way. Guess their sideline grifting depended on their constituents poor health.
There are a huge honking number of Democratic Party voters who chose to sit out this election because "reasons" whom are now panicking because everything wise minds said would happen back in the campaign days is unfolding here/now. Usually I'd offer compassion but when there exists the very clear possibility that me and mine are liable to get killed? Make amends and then we can talk.
Sen John McCain was a hero for saving the ACA. As imperfect as it is, the alternative was much much worse. I saw the numbers. Worse to the power of worse.
I was at the club yesterday. We just got a new golf simulator. I shot a 75 at Pebble Beach. The consensus was that it was moochers that relied on health insurance from these companies anyway. The biggest regret was that our assessments may go up because a rich guy was killed and the rest of us will have to make up the difference since he isn't a member anymore. Ah who cares. The landlords will just raise rents and the rest of the members can lay off some people. My friend Biffy is simply putting off getting a new set of clubs and a Rolls till the new Trump tax cuts start. That guy was chubby and didn't come to the Epstein Memorial dinner anyway.
Why didn't you ask that same question of Trump's HHS cabinet head?
You relentless and foolish criticism of every thing to do with any Democrat is getting old and tiresome.
And senseless.
The same people that fined American citizens for not having health insurance ,give it away to non citizens like candy
You and others like you are the reason we have the convicted felon and adjudicated sexual assaulter for the next 4 years. You believe any crap that your Fox or other non-news propaganda media feed you. Did it ever occur to you to check to see if what you wrote here was correct? Of course not. People like you prefer to pass around rumors, gossip, and untruths.
If only people like you would take the time to verify the gossip and rumors who hear before spreading lies and untruths, this would be a healthier country.
Are undocumented immigrants eligible for federal health care programs and benefits?
In general, no. Undocumented immigrants are largely ineligible for federal healthcare programs like Medicaid and Medicare and are ineligible for most federal health care benefits, aside from emergency care.
If you read the article, you will find that undocumented immigrants receive medical care in life or death situations. So, yes, some undocumented immigrants DO receive health care in dire situations.
Would you prefer that they suffer and die in agony? Is that the kind of country you'd be proud of? Maybe it is. In fact, I believe many MAGA would prefer that instead of doing the humanly decent thing.
They learned very well from the indecent man/felon they returned to the WH.
"Why didn't you ask that same question of Trump's HHS cabinet head?"
Because for the next two days the mass pardon criminals president is in charge. After Monday that will change and trump will be responsible so I will reserve judgement until after that. I don't have faith in any politician and believe they are all crooks who only look after themselves. You have faith in all democrats and think they do whats best for us.
Why doesn't everyone receive healthcare in dire situations instead of having to go into massive debt to pay for care. Why doesn't the federal government support veterans better. Easy answer, because it is controlled by politicians and doing the right thing doesn't benefit them so they would rather place blame than seek solutions.
Well if they can't afford it and they can't pay for it and they still get it then Americans who can't afford it should still have gotten it instead of getting fined for it . Didn't get health programs but they get health care they can go to a Dr it can't be turned down. The amount to babies born to illegal immigrants overwhelmed our health care system especially on the southern border if they came over here purposely pregnant what do you think a lot of those hospitals are in the red down there
Lisa:
Well if they can't afford it and they can't pay for it and they still get it then Americans who can't afford it should still have gotten it instead of getting fined for it.
That's a great argument in favor of universal health care for Americans. The Democrats (and some Republicans) have been lobbying for that for years.
Again, you posted gossip, rumors, and untruths:
Are undocumented migrants overwhelming our health care system?
No, babies born to undocumented migrants have not overwhelmed the US health care system. In fact, undocumented immigrants use fewer health care services than US-born citizens. However, undocumented immigrants face many challenges accessing health care, which can negatively impact their health and financial security.
Immigrants, particularly those who are undocumented, use less health care, including emergency room care, than people born in the U.S.
Overall, research shows that immigrants, including lawfully present and undocumented immigrants, use less health care than U.S.-born citizens. Moreover, the KFF/LA Times Survey of Immigrants shows that among immigrant adults, likely undocumented immigrants are less likely than lawfully present immigrants and naturalized citizens to report seeking or receiving care in the U.S. or having a health care visit in the past year. About six in ten (63%) likely undocumented immigrant adults report a health care visit in the past year compared with 74% of lawfully present immigrant adults and 82% of naturalized citizen adults.
Try looking up the truth, Lisa, instead of repeating lies. It's soooooo liberating!
Skud asked... "Why doesn't everyone receive healthcare in dire situations instead of having to go into massive debt to pay for care. Why doesn't the federal government support veterans better."?
Such a great question Skud.
Here's some reality around your question. What you are asking for is exactly what the Bernie Sanders ppl have been calling for years. And while yes, many on the left have castigated Bernie for this option, they do so fearful of the political reality.
They fear the political reality of attacks from the GOP and other conservative lawmakers and leaders who call them communists and socialists for even proposing exactly what you seem to be promoting!
So tell us Skud... how can we get those health care options so many of us lefties and yes, Democrats would love to see and enact, if when push comes to shove, folks like you keep voting GOP and for leaders like Trump?
Lisa does bring up a good point. Undocumented or as some say illegal aliens here can and do access health care everyday, without paying.
And everyday that happens, those health care providers incur a cost that must be covered by someone. What that means is this... Those health care providers will take those costs and spread them out over clients who can pay. Clients like everyone of us and our insurance companies.
So conservatives are correct when they say our health care costs more because of illegal immigration. But our health care also costs more everyday because we treat millions of Americans all the time who also cannot pay their healthcare bills.
Now without demonizing anyone, maybe someone here can come up with a fix to this reality, discarded veterans, underinsured senior citizens and our increasing homeless population.
Because if you're a MAGA supporter and can't, then you're not serious and are MAGA solely for the power rush that comes from your tribe's label.
Skud wrote, speaking of President Biden... "Because for the next two days the mass pardon criminals president is in charge."
A simple question, which I doubt Skud will answer...
Is it wrong for a president to use his Constitutionally enumerated powers to pardon criminals?
Yes or no will suffice.
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